Dual Sounds

Well, I have the new DVD drive and successfully loaded VDL2. Using the Sibelius template for VDL2, I decided to start with a ";test"; score. A couple of things I've encountered are:

When entering notes into the snare voice using my Roland keyboard, I hear both snare and piano sounds each time I enter a note. What have I sent up incorrectly?

Second, entering notes on the tenor voice, just right and left hand hits, on playback I hear the right hand but there's no playback sound for the left hand.

When ";searching for new Devices";, should I see K2 somewhere in the device window where I see MIDI and soundblaster2 etc?

This is just the beginning. . .I have lots to learn about VDL2 and K2 and more.

Thanks,
Steve
";This is just the beginning. . .I have lots to learn about VDL2 and K2 and more. ";

Not to sound like a jerk; I mean this sincerely... you should check out the manual. It will answer some of your questions. In addition, and more importantly, you'll be asking better questions. Example:

";When entering notes into the snare voice using my Roland keyboard, I hear both snare and piano sounds each time I enter a note. What have I sent up incorrectly? ";

I doubt anyone can know on this forum, other than you left a piano sound on somewhere. In that respect, you answer your own question. But without steps, or reproduction, or information, or data even, we'd all be sending you blind guesses... and that's not a good situation for anyone. :?

Why you're not hearing L vs R - obviously it's supposed to work, and by its nature, if you have one working, the other should too. Again, stating the problem without the steps you've done isn't conducive to an answer. It's akin to ";My car won't start - can you tell me what's wrong?";

Let us know what you're doing in each case, and we'll help you solve them.
drumcat, appreciate your reply. The sad part is that I've been in the manual quite a bit. And, of course, I intend to get into it again. But sometimes manuals are written by those that know software that unintentionally presume directions are clear. Little things that can be missed by someone like me become big things in programming. That's where this forum comes in.

I didn't get ";jerk"; from your response and to be honest, I'd think much the same. But so far, I'm not having the success I desire. Now, I've only had it loaded for a couple of days and though I started reading through the manual early in the weekend (and have re-read many sections), I haven't found the solution.

In fact, in the manual, I remember it advises not to worry about what instrument is selected in the mixer. So I haven't.

But much of this question is being posed while I'm at work, not sitting in front of my home PC where I can replicate the situation and provide all of the tiny details.

I'll give it another shot tonight though and if I can be more specific, I will.

Steve
No problem, Steve. Look forward to it.
[quote=";drumzx";]

When entering notes into the snare voice using my Roland keyboard, I hear both snare and piano sounds each time I enter a note. What have I sent up incorrectly?

When ";searching for new Devices";, should I see K2 somewhere in the device window where I see MIDI and soundblaster2 etc?

This is just the beginning. . .I have lots to learn about VDL2 and K2 and more.

Thanks,
Steve[/quote]

I can't say for sure but if you aren't seeing your midi device loaded into Sibelius (for me its Midi Yoke) the snare sound your are hearing is probably coming from your keyboard and the piano sound is probably coming from your midi set up in Sibelius. I can try to help you out with some of those issues but I have to run to a meeting right now. So I'll try to go into more detail later if you still have questions.
What notation program are you using? I too had problems with dual sounds when launching multiple instances of VD:2 with Finale 2005. I found that in the MIDI setup menu, you must make sure that the MIDI synth device is the last device in the MIDI Out section. If you do not need the piano/synth sound at all, just make sure that you only have the virtual midi cable selected as your output device. This is the only time I had trouble with the dual sound problem. I was using eleven voices on VD:2 and one on my MIDI synth. I did have to launch two instances of VD:2. Now it works great. I have never had trouble with dual sounds when only using one instance of VD:2 within the eight vocies it supports. So, hang in there.

Also, is the keyboard sound coming from the keyboard or your computer speakers? You may have to make sure that you are only sending the MIDI signal to VD: 2 and not also sending it to your keyboard or back through your MIDI synth (on accident).

I am not sure if that helps or not. Just hang in there. You will figure everything out. It just takes some practice and some time. This is a great program!

Luke
Okay, I decided to leave work early to try to work this out. First, GBass here's the what's showing in my ";Devices"; Window:

SB Audigy2 Synth A (DF00)
Maple Midi Out: Port 1
Maple Midi Out: Port 2
Maple Midi Out: Port 3
Maple Midi Out: Port 4
Out USB Midi 1x1
SB Audigy2 SW Synth (DF00)
SB Audigy2 SW Synth B (DF00)
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth

The sounds I was hearing are coming from my speakers.

Luke, I'm using Sibelius 3.1.3. The ";Virtual Midi Cable"; is part of what is stopping me. I have Marblesound's Maple Midi loaded on my computer but I don't know exactly what I'm doing with it and how it ";connects"; Sibelius and VDL2 together.

Yes, I'm kind of lost. . .
Steve
Okay guys. . .I have sounds. . .I have notes going in using my keyboard and I have playback. The newest question is that in running straight 8th notes, there are delays occuring. . .almost like it is syncopated. Any thoughts?
[quote=";drumzx";]Okay guys. . .I have sounds. . .I have notes going in using my keyboard and I have playback. The newest question is that in running straight 8th notes, there are delays occuring. . .almost like it is syncopated. Any thoughts?[/quote]

This may have something to do with your soundcard driver. When you get a moment, please post the settings of your Soundcard Setup window (from VDL2).

If you have the option for an ASIO driver, that's most likely the best choice. Since it appears you have a soundblaster, there's likely an ASIO driver to choose from. These types of audio drivers generally give better results in responsiveness. If you don't see an ASIO driver available, you can download the free asio4all driver from http://www.asio4all.com. We've had good reports on it's results.
Jim, the setup is (and after reading your comments):

Interface = ASIO
Sample Rate = 48000
Output Device = SB Audigy2 ASIO (DF00) (changed it from Creative ASIO but no affect on response)
Output Latency = 50 ms

Steve
[quote=";drumzx";]Jim, the setup is (and after reading your comments):

Interface = ASIO
Sample Rate = 48000
Output Device = SB Audigy2 ASIO (DF00) (changed it from Creative ASIO but no affect on response)
Output Latency = 50 ms

Steve[/quote]
Thanks for the info Steve. Sometimes a little tweaking, playing, and talking nice will do the trick in this area. :)

If possible, set your sample rate to 44100. Some drivers may or may not give you that option. Also, if there is a slider connected to the latency value, try bringing it down around 20 or 30.

I'm not certain this will help, but it's worth some tinkering.

Another question...do you have DFD installed, and is it active? You can check this in the OPTIONS window from VDL2.
Jim, I wanted to give you an update. I do not have DFD loaded and did not have an option with the sampler rate. Mine is set at 48000. But I did adjust the latency to 20ms and that solved the problem. . .plays as smooth as if I were one genius of an instructor. :lol:

If I encounter different issues, I'll toy with DFD.

I appreciate to patient feedback.

Steve

PS Next on my agenda. . .additional RAM. . . :roll: :)
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