Note Entry/Playback Problem

I'm having some problems getting actual noteheads to show up on the staff when I enter them in on my O2 MIDI keyboard. For example, if I hit the ";A"; key for a ping shot, I'll hear the ping shot sound, but a notehead will not show up on the staff, even after assigning a rhythm to it and everything.

I'm no genius, so I can't explain my system setup very well. I bought a Dell Inspiron 9300 (meets all VDL: 2 system requirements) and VDL: 2 and the MIDI keyboard as a package deal from Tapspace, so all of this is [i]designed[/i] to work. If anyone could help me, I would appreciate it. I'm in a bit of a time crunch as I have some music due to two programs soon and I may have to resort to (*gasp*) writing it by hand!

Thank you,
Matt Little
Jim,

Matt is right.  The O2 keyboard has no drivers available at all.  The CD in the box comes with a single .pdf file.  I am experiencing the ";blue screen of death"; every time I even give the board power when working with our sweet WIN 2000 network at school.  When I asked the tech guy when we would be getting our new G5 dual processor Mac's, he looked at me like I had Terretts...

Matt,

One problem I had repeatedly was that I kept setting up the Snare, Quads, Bass, and Cymbals on Ports 1, 2, 3, and 4 respectively on Maple MIDI.  It should be that they are ALL on Port 1 and just in channels 1-4.

Mike
Do you see the M-Audio keyboard listed in the Sibelius ";Devices"; window under ";Input Devices?"; If so, you should highlight it (so it's selected). Once you've done this, tapping on the O2 should activate the little ";activity"; meter so you can see it's signal is being received by Sibelius.

If you don't see the M-Audio device listed here, it's not being recognized. Either you'll need to install a driver (availble for free download from http://www.m-audio.com), or contact M-Audio support and ask them why your keyboard isn't being recognized by your computer.

One more thing....(sorry..have to ask), the keyboard is powered on right? I believe there's a USB/Power switch that needs to be set to ";USB"; if you're simply powering it from the computer.
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Matt - what are you using as your virtual midi cable? It'll be helpful in diagnosing if you include details about your system such as:
Type of computer hardware (CPU speed, RAM, audio card)
Operating system (Windows XP or Mac OSX 10.3.x or 10.4.x)
Virtual MIDI cable being used (Maple, Yoke, IAC, Midi Patchbay)

If you're not getting input from your O2, and you're not hearing output from VDL2, it sounds like you haven't configured Sibelius or VDL2 (or possibly both) properly. I know Macs are generally able to use M-audio controllers ";out of the box"; without installing any drivers, but I'm not sure if it's the case with Windows. Did you install the drivers that came with the O2 keyboard?
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Jim,
    It's a Pentium M processor (1.86Ghz).
    1.06 Ghz, 2.00 GB of RAM. I don't know offhand the kind of audio card, but I'm getting the sounds from VDL:2 on it, so I don't think that's the problem.
    Interesting that you bring up the issue of the drivers. I tried to run the disc that came with it the other day, and there was nothing on the disc except for a .pdf file. I don't think there were any drivers. Is there a website I can go to to get them? I thought I read in the .pdf that it is ";class compliant"; and should ";work without any further installation."; 
    At any rate, I'm getting sounds again, but nothing is showing up on the score.

Thanks again,
Matt
[quote author=Matt Little link=topic=735.msg2820#msg2820 date=1121819428]
Jim,
    Thank you for responding. I can't believe that I forgot to mention that I'm using Sibelius 3. I am using the Sibelius template from Tapspace. I believe that I've taken care of all the steps that you've mentioned. I'll go back and double check. However, every time I make sure that I followed your recommendations, it still doesn't work. As a matter of fact, I've gone from being able to hear the sounds with no notation showing up to not being able to hear any sounds *and* not seeing any notation when I use my O2.
      Thank you for your help. I'm going to break out the paper and pencil and get started, but hopefully I can get this to work at some point!

Thanks,
Matt

[/quote]

Matt - what are you using as your virtual midi cable? It'll be helpful in diagnosing if you include details about your system such as:
Type of computer hardware (CPU speed, RAM, audio card)
Operating system (Windows XP or Mac OSX 10.3.x or 10.4.x)
Virtual MIDI cable being used (Maple, Yoke, IAC, Midi Patchbay)

If you're not getting input from your O2, and you're not hearing output from VDL2, it sounds like you haven't configured Sibelius or VDL2 (or possibly both) properly. I know Macs are generally able to use M-audio controllers ";out of the box"; without installing any drivers, but I'm not sure if it's the case with Windows. Did you install the drivers that came with the O2 keyboard?
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Hi Matt,
What notation program are you using??

You should set your O2 as its MIDI input device
You should set your ";virtual midi cable"; (maple midi, midi yoke, Apple IAC, midi patchbay) as its output device.
Be sure your Notation program is set to use ";Midi Thru";.

In VDL2 >Setup > Midi:
Be sure all MIDI Outputs are OFF
For MIDI INPUT be sure your ";virtual midi cable"; is set to ";ON";. Here, your O2 should be OFF if your intention is to control VDL2 with your notation program. If you're simply going to play it with your O2, then set it to ON as the MIDI Input.
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Jim,
    Thank you for responding. I can't believe that I forgot to mention that I'm using Sibelius 3. I am using the Sibelius template from Tapspace. I believe that I've taken care of all the steps that you've mentioned. I'll go back and double check. However, every time I make sure that I followed your recommendations, it still doesn't work. As a matter of fact, I've gone from being able to hear the sounds with no notation showing up to not being able to hear any sounds *and* not seeing any notation when I use my O2.
      Thank you for your help. I'm going to break out the paper and pencil and get started, but hopefully I can get this to work at some point!

Thanks,
Matt
[quote author=usmglassman link=topic=735.msg2817#msg2817 date=1121787687]
Matt, I am not using a midi keyboard at this point in the game, so I am having to go down and map out the noteheads that are used in the newest template by hand. I have tried all of the noteheads individually using the full snareline sound library and none of them are dedicated to a ping shot sound. I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but it looks like they never assigned a notehead to activate the ping shot sound! My system, however, crashed about a week ago, so I can't get in there and play around with it right now, so.....this probably doesn't help you.

Musically,
Scott
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Scott - The Tapspace templates for Finale and Sibelius do in fact contain an X notehead for ping shots, so I think you may be mistaken somehow. Doing this stuff without a MIDI keyboard...yikes!! ;)
[quote author=Matt Little link=topic=735.msg2815#msg2815 date=1121739312]
I'm having some problems getting actual noteheads to show up on the staff when I enter them in on my O2 MIDI keyboard. For example, if I hit the ";A"; key for a ping shot, I'll hear the ping shot sound, but a notehead will not show up on the staff, even after assigning a rhythm to it and everything.

I'm no genius, so I can't explain my system setup very well. I bought a Dell Inspiron 9300 (meets all VDL: 2 system requirements) and VDL: 2 and the MIDI keyboard as a package deal from Tapspace, so all of this is [i]designed[/i] to work. If anyone could help me, I would appreciate it. I'm in a bit of a time crunch as I have some music due to two programs soon and I may have to resort to (*gasp*) writing it by hand!

Thank you,
Matt Little
[/quote]

Hi Matt,
What notation program are you using??

You should set your O2 as its MIDI input device
You should set your ";virtual midi cable"; (maple midi, midi yoke, Apple IAC, midi patchbay) as its output device.
Be sure your Notation program is set to use ";Midi Thru";.

In VDL2 >Setup > Midi:
Be sure all MIDI Outputs are OFF
For MIDI INPUT be sure your ";virtual midi cable"; is set to ";ON";. Here, your O2 should be OFF if your intention is to control VDL2 with your notation program. If you're simply going to play it with your O2, then set it to ON as the MIDI Input.
Matt, I am not using a midi keyboard at this point in the game, so I am having to go down and map out the noteheads that are used in the newest template by hand. I have tried all of the noteheads individually using the full snareline sound library and none of them are dedicated to a ping shot sound. I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but it looks like they never assigned a notehead to activate the ping shot sound! My system, however, crashed about a week ago, so I can't get in there and play around with it right now, so.....this probably doesn't help you.

Musically,
Scott
Matt,

You are using the template provided by Tapspace, right? Which notation program are you using?

Gabe
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