How does one go about making a recording of their music with Virtual Drumline Sounds using an Apple Computer and Sibelius 3?

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How does one go about making a recording of their music with Virtual Drumline Sounds using an Apple Computer and Sibelius 3?
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Check out WireTap Pro.  Very cool software that records the sounds your computer is making.  Check this out:

https://www.tapspace.com/forums/index.php?topic=707.0

You can use WireTap Pro, which is a fairly inexpensive investment for what it can do.  If you wanted to go higher end, you can go with a DAW like Logic Pro 7, Pro Tools (a Digidesign audio interface is required with this), Cubase SX, or Digital Performer 4.5 but those usually cost in the $400-900 range, plus any extra costs for an audio/MIDI interface or MIDI controller.  Those can take a bit more of work to figure out how to use efficiently if you have never used audio equipment before, or have a good understanding of signal flow.

If you're on Tiger you can also use the 'AULab' program that gets installed with the Developer Tools. It lets you load up the general midi sounds and VDL plugin(s) and record the output. It's worked well for me.

Since I don't have the full Kontact/Kompact versions, it also means that I don't have to reload the sounds into the correct slots each time I need to use them - they just get saved into an AULab document.

Most of these have been mentioned before - you can search for old topics that may have more suggestions.

I haven't done this before, but in theory, you can make your recordings with Garage Band. Garage Band 2 (I believe) has the ability to import MIDI files. Save your Sibelius score as a MIDI file, import it into Garage Band, load Virtual Drumline 2 as an AU plug-in in Garage Band (one instance for each track), and load instruments.

I was messing around with VDL2 and Garage Band today and I couldn't find a way to load the VDL2 player.  The whole program has an over-simplified interface with no ";import"; option to load a MIDI file (or anything else), but you can just drag a MIDI file onto the program and it will create tracks for each instrument.  When you double click an instrument, you can expand ";Details"; and select VDL2, but it doesn't open the plugin.  Any ideas?  This would be a pretty good way for people to improve the sound of their music without having to buy more software... if it works. 

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I was messing around with VDL2 and Garage Band today and I couldn't find a way to load the VDL2 player.  The whole program has an over-simplified interface with no ";import"; option to load a MIDI file (or anything else), but you can just drag a MIDI file onto the program and it will create tracks for each instrument.  When you double click an instrument, you can expand ";Details"; and select VDL2, but it doesn't open the plugin.  Any ideas?  This would be a pretty good way for people to improve the sound of their music without having to buy more software... if it works. 
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Jesse, you're almost there. Under ";Details";, you should see a ";Generator"; pulldown menu. At the bottom of this menu are all Audio Unit modules that are currently installed. VDL2 appears here. Select it, then click the ";edit generator"; button (over to the right of the generator pulldown). This will open the VDL2 window where you can load an instrument. Currently, Garage Band will only allow you to play one instrument from each instance of the VDL2 Kontakt Player, so if you need multiple instruments, you'll need to load a separate instance per track, with only one instrument assigned.

If, for some reason, you're not seeing Virtual Drumline 2 under the Audio Unit Modules section of the Generator, check Macintosh HD>Library>Audio>Plug-Ins>Components, and make sure that you see the file: ";VirtualDrumline2.component";. If it's not there, it wasn't properly installed. To be sure, you can also check the same path location, but in your ";User>Library>Audio>etc..."; folder instead. By default, if you installed the AU from the VDL2 installer, it should follow the first path mentioned.

I was dinking around with garageband and not have a few questions again, if I use garage band to make a recording, do I have to write my composition on my staff to the notes that would correspond to the key map?  or is there a way in garage band to change the key map???

I know on Windows computers there is the Sound Recorder program that can record whatever sounds your computer is playing, is there anything like that for apple computers? Does garageband do this?  I know with garageband i can get it to record the sounds that are coming out of my speakers into a microphone, but the quality isn't as good.

Is it possible to load sounds into either the gold or silver version of the kontakt player that comes with sibelius, or do you have to buy the real version?

Thanks for all the help

I added a Garage Band tutorial to the helpful hints section

Thanks!  I'm finally able to make recordings of my music!

This rocks!

My ";Virtualdrumline2.component"; is under Macintosh HD>Library>Audio>Plug-Ins>Components and I still don't see the Virtual DrumLine2 under Audio Unit Modules section of the Generator in Garage Band. I don't see what is going wrong? Is it a Rosetta issue?

I checked GB forums but I still don't have any answers. Thanks!

Thierry Pilote

Mac OSX 10.4.8
2,16 GHz Intel Core Duo
1G Ram

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My ";Virtualdrumline2.component"; is under Macintosh HD>Library>Audio>Plug-Ins>Components and I still don't see the Virtual DrumLine2 under Audio Unit Modules section of the Generator in Garage Band. I don't see what is going wrong? Is it a Rosetta issue?

I checked GB forums but I still don't have any answers. Thanks!

Thierry Pilote

Mac OSX 10.4.8
2,16 GHz Intel Core Duo
1G Ram

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Thierry - yes, I'm afraid this is the issue. Until Virtual Drumline 2 is available in a universal binary format (specifically for intel macs), the AU will not appear in host programs. In the meantime, the workaround that some people have been planning for is to use the universal version of Kontakt 2 (the full version of Kontakt) which should be availalble very soon (NI is now saying November 2006), and loading VDL2 sounds within it. The universal version of VDL2 has not yet been announced, so no timeline can be determined just yet.

[quote] Until Virtual Drumline 2 is available in a universal binary format (specifically for intel macs), the AU will not appear in host programs.[/quote]

For most apps you can use the checkbox to make them run in Rosetta, and then the plugin will show up.
See the info from this thread: https://www.tapspace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1210.msg5190#msg5190

...which also notes that it doesn't work for GarageBand - but I've been using VDL2 with AULab in Rosetta all year.

Thanks for the reminder on this Corey!!

OK. Thanks to you two for the fast reply. I appreciate.