Using Finale2007, I'm trying to add VDL2 drum parts to Sibelius-composed brass parts.  The Sibelius brass parts have already been converted to MIDI file and loaded into Finale, which is fine.  I've also added the snare-quad-bass staves to the score and loaded the VDL2 perc maps.  But now I am stuck trying to get Finale to playback the brass sounds and VDL2 sounds concurrently.

-Since all the brass parts used channel 1-16, I put my battery parts starting with channel 17.
-MIDI input is my MIDI cable to my MIDI keyboard; base channel = 17.
-MIDI output is SmartMusic SoftSynth 1; base channel = 1.
-When MIDI -> ";Play Finale through Native Instruments VST"; is checked, VDL2 plays the sounds just fine, but brass sounds are NOT heard.
-When MIDI -> ";Play Finale through Native Instruments VST"; is UN-checked, brass sounds are played just fine, yet VDL2 sounds are NOT heard.

What do I need to do to make Finale play VDL2 sounds and brass sounds concurrently?

Appreciate anyone's help!  Thanks!

Ok then it was most definitely that Adobe product being chosen then.

Oh, I thought you meant what my NEW settings were.  Sorry.  The sound card setting I had when I couldn't hear the sounds was ASIO, 44100, Premiere Elements Windows So...., latency = ";--";.  So you must've been right about the PRM.dll file...because the error comes back when I select ASIO and Premiere El...

Bottom line: DirectSound works real nice for me.  A latency of 20ms is well-balanced too (I played around with it a bit!).

AH.  Finale uses 2-chan, 16-bit rather than 24-bit.  This could have been the cause.  But it may still work.  A lot of times on Macintosh if teh audio settings are not 2-ch, 16bit and other audio devices are used it will change Finale settings, and not allow you to hear anything at all, and sometimes give error messages.

In VDL2 Soundcard Setup:

DirectSound
44100
DS Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit
7 ms

What were your settings there, V-Fan.  This will help us get some information for an FAQ or a Sticky.

:)  Sometimes the simple things get us.  That's great to hear that you have it working now.  Glad we could help.  This will be a good topic to  look back on and refer to in the future.

FINALLY!  Sometimes it's the simplest things...

My VDL2 Audio Setup soundcard was set to something else instead of my regular soundcard.  VDL2 and Finale brass sounds play concurrently now.  Wow.  Oh well, I learned a lot about how to set up everything by going through this exercise.  This is valuable knowledge for the future.

Thank you both for all your help!

Are you running any High-end Adobe Imaging software like Adobe Premier, or any other High-end audio software?  NI might know something about this because it does seem that some people have had this while running GPO Studio before.

Good Call, Jim.

Maybe there is another 3rd party PLUGIN that is causing a conflict.  But a reinstall wouldn't hurt.  Just my guess.

http://www.dvhardware.net/software/2118

The link above is some thing I found when searching for PRM.dll.  It seems like a reinstall of the application fixed their issues.  Maybe if you were to reinstall Virtual Drumline this would work.  But you would want to completely uninstall first, and then reinstall to make sure you have a CLEAN reinstall.
[list]
[li][b]Start Menu -->Add/Remove Programs[/b].  Remove Virtual Drumline 2[/li]
[li]Go to [b]C:\Program Files\[/b].  Delete the Tapspace Folder if it is there[/li]
[li]In your [b]Start Menu -->All Programs[/b] list, make sure you have removed the ";[glow=red,2,300]Tapspace Virtual Drumline 2[/glow]"; folder from the list if it is there[/li]
[li]Go to [b]Start Menu -->Run[/b].  Type ";[glow=red,2,300]regedit[/glow]";.  You will see five folders on the left side.  You can expand the folders by clicking on the ";+"; or contract them by clicking on the ";-"; to the left of a folder.[/li]
[li]Expand [b]HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE[/b].  Expand ";[glow=red,2,300]Software[/glow]";.  Expand ";[glow=red,2,300]Native instruments[/glow]";.  You will see a ";[glow=red,2,300]Virtual Drumline 2[/glow]"; folder.  Right click and delete the VDL 2 folder folder.  Close these folders.[/li]
[li]Expand [b]HKEY_CURRENT_USER[/b].  Expand ";[glow=red,2,300]Software[/glow]";.  Expand ";[glow=red,2,300]Native instruments[/glow]";.  You will see a ";[glow=red,2,300]Virtual Drumline 2[/glow]"; folder.  Right click and delete the VDL 2 folder folder.  Close these folders.[/li]
[/list]

You should now have VDL removed from your system.  I would try running the installation again.  It most likely shouldn't affect your registration, but if it does that can easily be taken care of by going into your account at NI and deactivating your previous authorization for that computer.

I hope this helps.  If anyone else knowns more about that specific file, input would be great.  But reinstalling would be something to try as a basic troubleshooting step.

[quote author=vanguardfan link=topic=1508.msg7036#msg7036 date=1168804042]
1. This one occurs when loading VDL2, just like the other guy in this post:
";This application has failed to start because PRM.dll was not found.";
https://www.tapspace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1296.0

2. This occurs after a multi is loaded in VDL2:
http://www2.propichosting.com/Images/450019301/4.JPG

[/quote]

PRM.dll doesn't have anything to do with VDL, so I'm not sure what that might be on your system that is causing some sort of conflict. This would probably be some sort of third party VST instrument that was installed with some other software program or perhaps your soundcard? I'm not sure about that. You may find a more suitable answer by inquiring with NI or perhaps some other audio forums. I'll keep trying to learn more about that too as i'm not sure what that's all about.

Still didn't work.  Keyboard and VDL2 were ON and loaded before Finale.  Same result.  I didn't mention that I get these errors:

1. This one occurs when loading VDL2, just like the other guy in this post:
";This application has failed to start because PRM.dll was not found.";
https://www.tapspace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1296.0

2. This occurs after a multi is loaded in VDL2:
http://www2.propichosting.com/Images/450019301/4.JPG

Does this shine a light on anything?  Thanks for sticking with me on this.

My guess is that you had Finale open first before the VDL player.

[list]
[li]Close Finale[/li]
[li]Close VDL[/li]
[li]Reopen VDL standalone player[/li]
[li]Relaunch Finale 2007[/li]
[/list]

When I open Finale before the VDL player I have issues with the sound not being heard or it not recognizing that it is ";connected"; - This would be the same with an actual keyboard.  You should have your keyboard plugged in before opening Finale so that it is recognized.  When VDL player is open before Finale, Finale will see that as being something it can use and that something is ";connected"; to that port.  Let's try that.  I have the same settings as you and I am able to make this work, so it may just be the order in which things are being done.

Here is my Instrument list:
http://www2.propichosting.com/Images/450019301/1.JPG

Here is my Midi setup:
http://www2.propichosting.com/Images/450019301/2.JPG

Here is the VDL2 Midi setup:
http://www2.propichosting.com/Images/450019301/3.JPG


Any clues?

Vangaurd,

Like Jim says,  you may have a conflict with what the channels are saying in the Instrument list.  IN that example the second staff should be channel 17 and the first channel 1.  If this doesn't work you may also want to go to the Midi Menu -->Reload Midi Driver.  Hope that helps get you going.