I just loaded VD2, put 2GB of new soundcards in my pc, downloaded midi yoke, downloaded templates, and set the midi output through midi yoke. However, no playback sounds. What did I do wrong?
Yeah, don't get too discouraged Dennis - almost all of us have had this moment when learning all the ins & outs of installing VDL:2.
Just try installing one component at a time. When you have one working...then move on to the next one. You've invested too much money to give up just yet.
Now, just to clarify - did your computer work properly after you installed the memory (RAM)? If it was ";hiccuping,"; (like stuttering, screen freezing, etc.), then your RAM may not be compatible with your system. Hopefully that is not a problem.
Just reiterating what drumcat said: It's crucial to get your hardware working properly before installing software. Once you have your soundcard working properly... get VDL:2 up and going. [b]Search the forums[/b] for answers to your questions and [b]check the frequently asked questions (FAQ) [/b][url=https://www.tapspace.com/support/faq/]here[/url] when installing VDL:2. (And, you are always welcome to ask questions here as well.)
After VDL:2 is installed... [list] [li]Go to ";File";, then ";Setup";.[/li] [li]Click on ";Soundcard"; in the top left. You want your ";Interface"; to be ";ASIO";, and your output device to be your soundcard. [i](I'm assuming this card supports ASIO, but if someone who has this card knows the specific names of the settings, please advise).[/i][/li] [li]Then click on ";MIDI"; (top, third option over) - you want your ";input interface";(s) to be your midi keyboard if you have one, and/or your virtual midi cable: turned ";ON";[/li] [li]Now here is where a lot of people mess up. You [i]don't[/i] want any options of your ";output interface"; to be turned on. (You've already configured the output option for [i]sound[/i] in ";Soundcard";.[/li]) [/list]
You should now be able to hear VDL:2 sounds. Click on one of the keys with your mouse, or press a key on your midi keyboard.
Let us know how that goes. When that works, see if you can get Sibelius working as it did before, then check out the [url=https://www.tapspace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1046.0]Sibelius Quick Start Guide[/url] (it is also in your VDL:2 manual) for directions on setting up VDL:2 with Sibelius.
I am again having problems with playback. When I open virtual drumline, I've set the audio as suggested. However, I cannot set the latency. It is blank and I've been unable to do anything with it. Is that the problem? Also, I am not able to set the routing. Nothing scrolls down. It stays at ";not connected";. I thought I had this working, but now I am back to square one. [/quote]
You've probably already figured this out, but there is no need to adjust anything in the [i]routing[/i] section of the VDL setup window. Just ignore this section.
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That's right. Certain soundcards/audio drivers require you to adjust latency (aka ";audio buffer";) via the hardware's primary controller software. Look in your Control Panels, and check for your M-Audio Delta control. Or, oftentimes you'll see an ";ASIO Config"; button near the latency slider in VDL, which should be a shortcut to opening this interface.
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When using ASIO, latency is set using the driver. Whatever your M-Audio settings are for the card, adjust latency there.
C If that's working, great! It's proably time to move into VDL's ";soundcard setup"; window to ensure the M-Audio card is what it's set to play back through. It'll help if you can list all available settings here, and what you have it currently set to. Ideally a [b]sample rate [/b]of 44100, [b]interface[/b] set to ASIO, and [b]device[/b] set to your audiophile would be what you should choose. Set [b]latency[/b] around 35ms for starters.
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I am again having problems with playback. When I open virtual drumline, I've set the audio as suggested. However, I cannot set the latency. It is blank and I've been unable to do anything with it. Is that the problem? Also, I am not able to set the routing. Nothing scrolls down. It stays at ";not connected";. I thought I had this working, but now I am back to square one.
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Glad to hear you're making progress!
In Sibelius Mixer, any staves you want to play through VDL2, would be set to your virtual midi cable (i.e. Midi Yoke) under ";device";.
If you haven't yet, it's a good idea to soak in the information in the Quickstart guide that should have been included in your VDL box. Besides this forum (which is a rich source) of info, the Tapspace FAQ pages can be very helpful as well:
You might also find it helpful to look through the ";hepful hints and tutorials"; topics here on the forum.
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Gentlemen,
It now works!!! Thank you for your help!! The sounds are playing through the Standalone. I haven't tried the midi yet, but will later on.
Could somebody post some links to important information on using this program with Sibelius? I do a lot of concert band compositions and want my midi samples to have the VD 2 sounds.
Thank you again for your help.
Dennis
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over 17 years ago
Thanks everybody for the help. I sincerely appreciate it.
Some things are now working:
1. Audiophile 2496 is working, but not through both channels. I need to go purchase (tomorrow) another adapter for the plugs. I think that will straighten that problem out.
2. Sibelius is working. I haven't been able to use the audiophile for midi yet. I also haven't been able to play the sound out of it using audiophile as my default playback. In my mixer, what would I choose to playback through? Kontact Gold or Delta AP Midi? That might make difference.
3. VD 2: I went ahead and uninstalled because it started freezing while opening. I didn't even make it to the setup. So, I thought it might be better to reinstall and try again. Before I do, I'll wait to hear from you folks.
Finally, I think I am half way there, so only more patience and time. Things will work out.
Dennis
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Hi Dennis.
The above suggestions are all very good ones. It sounds to me like you've just dived into a few areas where you're ";upping the anti"; of what you need to be comfortable with in your computer setup. As such, there will just be a few things that may be a little new to you that hopefully you'll begin to embrace as you go. You'll be using a collection of tools (Sibelius for notation, VDL for sounds, Audiophile and its drivers for audio processing) to accomplish a certain goal. So having some understanding about these tools and how they work together will be of utmost importance. These aren't unusual tools at all, so if you're familiar with audio drivers, virtual instruments, etc, this is all pretty basic stuff. If you're new to these tools, some patience in learning about them may be necessary. There are tons of good threads here if you take some time to search around.
Couple things to keep in mind when you're applying the above suggestions
If you've properly installed the audio drivers for your Audiophile 2496, you should see it appear as an available device in your Sounds&Audio Devices Control Panel in Windows. Since this is your new soundcard, it's probably best to set it here as your default audio output device. If you've done that, try opening up just a simple MP3 playback program like itunes or windows media player, and just try playing back a regular MP3. If you don't hear sound, this is the first problem you need to solve. Shouldn't be hard to solve, but at this point it's between you, your machine, and your M-Audio card (and its drivers).
If that's working, great! It's proably time to move into VDL's ";soundcard setup"; window to ensure the M-Audio card is what it's set to play back through. It'll help if you can list all available settings here, and what you have it currently set to. Ideally a [b]sample rate [/b]of 44100, [b]interface[/b] set to ASIO, and [b]device[/b] set to your audiophile would be what you should choose. Set [b]latency[/b] around 35ms for starters.
If you're confused, here are a few topics on the FAQ that might be helpful for you to check out:
Regarding sibelius freezing, again, it's probably a matter of not having your settings properly configured. Understanding the settings will be very helpful to ensure you're making the correct choices when connecting the various ";ins"; and ";outs."; My guess is that you may not fully understand how the virtual midi cable is functioning to connect Sibelius to VDL2. Think of it kind of like hooking up a DVD player to a TV. There's a cable that goes between the two. In this case, MIDI Yoke is that ";cable";, so it would connect Sibelius' [i]out[/i], to VDL's [b]in[/b]. But be careful that it's not also set as IN for Sibelius as that will create a MIDI loop and likely crash your machine. Your ";input device"; in Sibelius should be set to whatever device you're using as a midi input (midi keyboard or midi interface that your keyboard is connected through).
If you work through your troubles step-by-step, I'm certain you'll be up and running before you know it. Hang in there!
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Dennis, that actually helps quite a bit. Your story is neither rare, nor terribly hard to fix usually. Most, if not all of the problems you've mentioned here are not VDL2 problems, and VDL2 isn't going to do anything until you get them solved.
First, you made a good choice adding ram. That'll pay off.
Next, you said you ";did something"; that caused Sibelius to freeze. Do you know what that something is, or are you unsure about that?
It sounds like you are using a MIDI keyboard... and the Audiophile I believe has a MIDI in. Are you going through that now?
Reboot at this point, and make sure that you can play audio through that driver. Check that you're using that driver, that card, and that you can play a wav/cd/whatever. Get that working in some manner first.
Then work on Sibelius. Once the driver is working, set Sibelius to find that audio card. It should also start recognizing your keyboard.
OK, once you have the card driver, the midi keyboard, and Sibelius going, then close all of them.
Open VDL2 in STANDALONE. Load an instrument, and see if your midi keyboard triggers it. If not, see if clicking a blue key does. Check the setup if you need to turn on the midi keyboard to make that work. Either way, it'll let you make sure that everything is working, both with audio playback and with your midi keyboard.
If you've gotten to this point, and all of the parts work, then and only then will they play together.
Let us know if/when you get this far, and if you need help along the way. After a major hardware upgrade, it's critical to get all the tools working individually.
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Hey Dennis,
Don't get discouraged. VDL2 is an excellent product and I'm sure we can help you get it up and running. It is a bit daunting if you aren't very computer savvy. First thing I would check in Sibelius is the instrument mixer....are the settings correct? Try this...load a snare lite in VDL2, open up the Sibelius template, open the instrument mixer window. The device should be MidiYoke1 and channel should be 1. (program 0). Try adding a few snare notes with these setting and tell us if that worked...
Mark
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Let me take a deep breath and start all over.
A few days ago, I ordered VD 2, Audiophile 2496, and 2 GB of memory. They all arrived yesterday. I decided that today would be the day to install everything and get them working.
To install the memory cards, I contacted the Dell Tech. He helped me not only make sure I put the memory cards in correctly, but also put the new sound card (audiophile 2496) in, as well. After that, I went ahead a loaded the software for VD II. I am using Sibelius 4 as my notation software. From the very beginning, I have not been able to hear any playback of the percussion sounds in VD II. I tried changing my audio settings (control panel), as well as changing playback devices in the Sibelius. I kept trying different combinations with no luck.
Most recently, I did something that has caused my sibelius to freeze when I try to playback an earlier composition that I had on file. I believe my best bet is to uninstall everything and try again. Right now, I am so frustrated that I feel like just returning VD II to Lonestar Percussion, where I purchased the product. Also, I feel like taking out the audiophile 2496 and returning it ,as well. I should have just used the percussion sounds that I have with kontact gold. One last thing, now my midi device is not showing and I've tried to get the driver from the m-audio website and I am having problems with that, too.
I am not the greatest at computers. However, I have managed well with sibelius before this mess.
I am not sure if this is enough information. Like I said before, I will probably take everything out tomorrow and give up. I'll just use kontact gold , like before.
Dennis
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[quote author=drumcat link=topic=1609.msg7685#msg7685 date=1173584655] Why don't you take us through step by step with your settings -- after you take a look at the FAQ. We'll be glad to help, but we need a lot more information. [/quote]
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I'm sorry. I added 2GB of memory cards today. Until then, I only had 512MB.
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I just loaded VD2, put 2GB of new soundcards in my pc, downloaded midi yoke, downloaded templates, and set the midi output through midi yoke. However, no playback sounds. What did I do wrong?
Please help.
Thanks,