Hey Guys,

I want to know if anybody is using a Yamaha clickstation.  Do you like it?  Right now we are using a Dr. Beat DM 90 and I like it, but it's a bit cumbersome with when trying to program tempos or tempo loops (tempo changes).  Does it have a loop function like the Dr. Beat DM 90?  Does it lose it's programming when the battery dies?  Thanks for your help.
[quote author=CJ Young link=topic=1962.msg13914#msg13914 date=1217108072]
i think the VDL idea is great, Jim. perhaps hard to start and stop, but great for runthoughs?
[/quote]If you make the click track more than one file, say one file for every rehearsal letter or one file for every drill set, you can start and and stop as you please.
I had complained about the lack of useful metronomes for the iPhone/iPod Touch in the past, but our staff used ";Dr. Betotte TC"; for the past season - and it's great!

It's well worth the $10 for all the useful percussion features - remembering patterns, tap tempo, subdivision control��_ check it out here:

To be clear - I had nothing to do with this app, but I was happy to pay for it rather than writing my own. I haven't even bothered to get a new 9v battery for my Dr. Beat after the last one died :)
i think the VDL idea is great, Jim. perhaps hard to start and stop, but great for runthoughs?
I'm hoping for one that is more like a digital equivalent. The swinging pendulum is a pretty demo, but I don't really find it practical for drumming. I'm not sure what that app is from the other site - maybe an installable app for a jailbroken iPhone?

There are a few ";official"; metronome apps on the iPhone store currently, but they all appear to be the pendulum style. If anyone finds a good one they like, let me know!

Apparently if you email that guy He'll send it too you. Doesn't look to practical though :)
I'm excited to get a metronome built into an iPhone and iPod Touch - so I have one less thing to carry around. Also, if there's a surefire way to make sure that kids have metronomes - just build it into their iPods :)

Someone will make a metronome app once it's possible, but if people on this forum have special needs let me know - I can spend some time programming and doing something useful for this forum again :D
I recently got a DB-90 and I love it. All the guys here mock it and its robotic ";one-e-and-uh"; feature and are constantly trying to ";beat-box"; with it lol.
One thing I mention to my students is metronomes you can find online...and I think there is a Yahoo Widget metronome that has some more advanced features.  Those are free...but you have to have a computer, internet connection, speakers, etc. - so it doesn't translate well to a practice room environment.  But, in my experience, most high school drumline kids practice at home on their drumpad.  Here are some links:



Have fun...
VDL is my metronome most of the time :) Especially when trying to clean a quintuplet over 7 quarter notes :)  (spare time fun...)

As far as my students though, I recommend the Korg MA-30 for everyday use. When they need to practice crazy stuff, I'll program an MP3 for their pods.

If you have students who can't afford much, then sit down for 20 minutes and make mp3's of various tempi from 80-200 in VDL and give that to them. I've noticed that even the dirt poor of the dirt poor students still have ipods...humm... status symbol anyone?

Oh yea! There is an metronome someone developed for the ipod touch/iphone. I forget where I saw it, but it's out there!
Jim, thanks for that insight.  Its amazing when the answer is staring you right in the face and you don't even realize it.
I have used a click track generated in VDL before, it works out pretty sweet... sometimes when i leave home without my met, I end up using the Met that is in Kontakt 2 as well... its not really programmable, but it gives tempo nonetheless. lol
wow!  what great info here on metronomes...  I never thought of using my mp3 player, but I'm going to have to give that a try!  Thanks fellas.

[quote author=Dave Ratliff link=topic=1962.msg12526#msg12526 date=1206304037]
I used both a ";click track"; and also phrases of Sibelius/VDL when the kids were learning the drill. 

Ditto! My iPod has become my most important educational device this year! I did very much the same thing Dave is describing -- great for learning/refreshing drill or on contest days when you want to save chops but still go through the motions. Having set-to-set is also great for ";monkey-see-monkey-do"; rehearsing. In other words, we will play the track for that set-to-set while having the band DDR it (marching in place, considering direction and part of the foot being used), finger/airstick (and ";scat";)/mimic the guard work or ";air and articulation,"; then when that's done, have 8 counts from the snare and do the whole thing in real time.

Sort of by accident, sort of under time constraints, I did all of our tracks from the VDL audio alone. We rehearse our winds and percussion/guard separately about 75% of the time, so you might think this would screw up the wind kids. But there was enough melodic and harmonic information in the pit parts so the band always knew where they were. And best yet, they got a ton more familiar with the percussion parts!

We also took a couple of our alternates and made this their job -- someone to run the iPod and someone to run the tower to field sound. It at least made two more students feel like they were really contributing.

Whoa. Tangent over. Sorry to stray so much from the original post!
I did something like what Jim mentions here this past fall with my marching band.  I used both a ";click track"; and also phrases of Sibelius/VDL when the kids were learning the drill.  It helped the kids assimilate the drill to the music before we actually started marching and playing.  It worked VERY well for what it is worth.
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