Notes entered on USB keyboard don't jive with Kontakt player virtual keyboard
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almost 16 years ago
I'm a fairly new sibelius and VDL2.5 user (Got them both late summer of this year). I'm using new VDL 2.5 sibelius templates, and I notice that the notes that I hit on the USB don't give me the sounds I'm expecting according to the keymap. In fact, I'm not hearing very many sounds at all.
This only seems to be a problem with the battery stuff. Everything seems to work hunkydory with the mallet instruments.
So, I look at the Kontakt virtual keyboard, and I notice that the keys that I hit on the Keystation 49e and the notes that are activated on the kontakt keyboard are not the same. Sometimes nothing shows up on the the kontakt keyboard, sometimes it is not the same note at all.
Thinking that I may have inadvertently monkeyed with the settings on my USB midi controller, I reset all controllers, said a magic incantation, did a little dance, made a little love, got down tonight....
Still same problem, am I missing something here?
Thanks to anyone who might be able to help me regain my sanity!
My first thought was that you should reset your keyboard to its factory settings. Sounds like you thought of that as well.
The other thing to be careful of is to make sure the instrument you're monitoring in the KP2 interface is the same instrument that you have activated and are expecting to hear. You can select the visual display of the KP2 (on-screen) keyboard by clicking the LED meters in any instrument loaded into KP2. When you do this, you'll see the instrument (in KP2) becomes framed in yellow, and the blue/mapped keys in the keyboard reflect the highlighted instrument. Until you do this, the keyboard displays the mapping of the instrument loaded into KP2's first position.
If you're doing this within Sibelius and have ";midi thru"; checked, obviously the instrument that you're hearing, and that is active is the last staff you selected. Probably already stuff you know, but just want to make sure you're auditioning the actual instrument you're viewing.
I assume you're using Sibelius 5.1, but I'm not sure. Regardless, is it possible that you may have done a transposition change on one of the Sibelius staves? It's also possible that you could have altered the transposition in the KP2 instrument, but that's not likely unless you were doing some tinkering in the Instrument's ";Info"; window. Did you inadvertently fiddle with any of the battery instrument's ";edit instrument"; (Sib 5.1) settings? That could jack some things up.
Have you tried just doing a full restart of your system? Sometimes that's all the voodoo you need.
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almost 16 years ago
I'm posting this for the good of the order... even though it wounds my ego so!
This was all a case of RTFM. I didn't see that there was a ";Tapspace 2.5"; family of instruments. I was choosing the default battery instruments. That is why it didn't map out correctly. So there you go...
Thanks, Mr. Casella for taking the time to help me with this issue. Even though- if the answer were a snake, it would have bit me ;p
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almost 16 years ago
Well, because you bit the bullet, 10 more people won't have to bruise their egos. You took it for the team. ;)
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almost 16 years ago
Takin' it like a champ! Thanks for being humble enough to share your solution. :)
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over 15 years ago
I'm having the same problem as the OP, but I'm pretty sure its for a different reason.
I'm using VDL 2.5, Sibelius 5.1, and a casio midi keyboard.
After some experimenting, I think my problem has to do with Sibelius and Ch. 10. If I set up, say, a xylo stave, set the output for that stave to Ch. 1, and set the Kontakt input for Snare Manual for Ch. 1, I can play notes on the keyboard that correspond to the correct notes on the VDL map. This is great except that the visual output on Sibelius is still in regular musical notation (lines and spaces, accidentals, etc.)
When I try to set up a battery stave, Sibelius automatically sets it to Ch. 10. When I set the corresponding instrument in Kontakt to Ch. 10, I only get one or two drum sounds and a variety of cymbal sounds. The visual output, however, is in the proper format.
It seems that there is no way to get Sibelius to set these battery staves to anything other than 10 in the mixer window. Is there a setting I need to change in order to set percussion staves to something other than Ch. 10? Has anyone else had this problem?
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over 15 years ago
[quote author=Captain Decoy link=topic=2137.msg13032#msg13032 date=1209760812] I'm having the same problem as the OP, but I'm pretty sure its for a different reason.
I'm using VDL 2.5, Sibelius 5.1, and a casio midi keyboard.
After some experimenting, I think my problem has to do with Sibelius and Ch. 10. If I set up, say, a xylo stave, set the output for that stave to Ch. 1, and set the Kontakt input for Snare Manual for Ch. 1, I can play notes on the keyboard that correspond to the correct notes on the VDL map. This is great except that the visual output on Sibelius is still in regular musical notation (lines and spaces, accidentals, etc.)
When I try to set up a battery stave, Sibelius automatically sets it to Ch. 10. When I set the corresponding instrument in Kontakt to Ch. 10, I only get one or two drum sounds and a variety of cymbal sounds. The visual output, however, is in the proper format.
It seems that there is no way to get Sibelius to set these battery staves to anything other than 10 in the mixer window. Is there a setting I need to change in order to set percussion staves to something other than Ch. 10? Has anyone else had this problem? [/quote]
Are you using the Sib 5.1 Template? Use this link and follow the Read me...
Yeah, I'm using the 5.1 template.�� I looked through the ReadMe but can't seem to find anything about my problem.
I suppose I should also mention I'm using Kontakt in stand-alone mode, using Maple VMC.
Could the problem be that I don't seem to have Sound Essentials and can't select Kontakt Player as my sound set?
If so, is there an easy way to get Sounds Essentials? I don't have the Sibelius disc anymore.
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over 15 years ago
You don't have the Sibelius disc anymore? What pray tell did you do with it?
I'm not sure that any of us have tried using Kontakt in standalone mode with Sibelius 5. Not being able to set channel numbers will definitely impact how Sibelius and Kontakt communicate with each other.
I suppose I should also mention I'm using Kontakt in stand-alone mode, using Maple VMC.
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Exactly which version of Kontakt are you referring to? KontaktPlayer2 or the full version of Kontakt (2 or 3?)?
If you have K3:�� According to my quick tests with the Kontakt 3 demo, you can host K3 as a plug-in within Sibelius and have the VDL patches loaded automatically into it, just like you would if you were using KontaktPlayer2.
After some experimenting, I think my problem has to do with Sibelius and Ch. 10. If I set up, say, a xylo stave, set the output for that stave to Ch. 1, and set the Kontakt input for Snare Manual for Ch. 1, I can play notes on the keyboard that correspond to the correct notes on the VDL map. This is great except that the visual output on Sibelius is still in regular musical notation (lines and spaces, accidentals, etc.)
When I try to set up a battery stave, Sibelius automatically sets it to Ch. 10. When I set the corresponding instrument in Kontakt to Ch. 10, I only get one or two drum sounds and a variety of cymbal sounds. The visual output, however, is in the proper format.
It seems that there is no way to get Sibelius to set these battery staves to anything other than 10 in the mixer window. Is there a setting I need to change in order to set percussion staves to something other than Ch. 10? Has anyone else had this problem? [/quote]
I believe the issue you are having with the channel 10 thingy is that you are using Kontakt in stand-alone mode. If you use it within Sibelius this problem should go away (and the fact that it does it for you anyway).
If you end up deciding to use it in stand-alone, then you probably need to use the Manual Sound Sets tab in your Playback Devices dialog in order to control which slot/channel is used. This is the only way I know of to have control over the slot assignments in the Sibelius Mixer.
Yeah, I'm using the 5.1 template.�� I looked through the ReadMe but can't seem to find anything about my problem.
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Correct, it's not in there. The Template is designed to function with KontaktPlayer2 hosted within Sibelius. Or you can substitute K3 if you wish, like I mentioned previously.
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This only seems to be a problem with the battery stuff. Everything seems to work hunkydory with the mallet instruments.
So, I look at the Kontakt virtual keyboard, and I notice that the keys that I hit on the Keystation 49e and the notes that are activated on the kontakt keyboard are not the same. Sometimes nothing shows up on the the kontakt keyboard, sometimes it is not the same note at all.
Thinking that I may have inadvertently monkeyed with the settings on my USB midi controller, I reset all controllers, said a magic incantation, did a little dance, made a little love, got down tonight....
Still same problem, am I missing something here?
Thanks to anyone who might be able to help me regain my sanity!