Finale, Middle C

I've searched the Forums and FAQ's and just can't seem to find the right post.  Just wondering if someone can point me in the right direction on how to change Middle C on Finale to C3 instead of C4, if it even is possible.

Thanks a bunch,
I don't think this is possible. Some keyboards and programs call Middle C ";C3"; while others call it ";C4";. Unfortunately, this variance has been going on for decades now. VDL uses ";C3"; because that's the standard that Native Instruments use for Kontakt Player 2.
Actually it is possible to change this parameter. Use this path Preferences>Program Options>View. You will need to change the Pitch Representation from MIDI number to Pitch and then set Middle C ";C3";. I've never done this so I can't tell you what the results will yield.


Ted Boliske
I stand corrected. Thanks Ted!! I wish all music programs did that!
Thanks Guys....I just can't believe that I searched and searched Finale with a fine tooth comb, and didn't even notice that.  And that was the first place I looked too....
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Actually it is possible to change this parameter. Use this path Preferences>Program Options>View. You will need to change the Pitch Representation from MIDI number to Pitch and then set Middle C ";C3";. I've never done this so I can't tell you what the results will yield.


Ted Boliske
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[color=Red]For clarification as it is confusing:[/color]�� It doesn't change the actual midi Pitch number.�� C4 in Finale is Midi Pitch 60.�� If you change that setting, it is still 60.�� It is just changing the name for that note so that it will match what your Device is using or VDL is saying for instance.
Scott,

Thanks for the clarification. This was something I had not included because I've never changed the setting. In fact my defualt setting is to use MIDI numbers rather than Middle C.

Ted Boliske
I just tried changing the setting and indeed it does not work.  I am guessing its my keyboard rather than finale, unless there is something else I can try.  I am using a run of the mill Casio keyboard till I can afford an Oxygen 8.  If thats the case with finale using C4 (Pitch 60), will I find the same problem say using another type of keyboard.  I am not so familiar using MIDI keyboards for inputting, so sorry if these questions seem a bit elementary.  The reason being is I was writing a lot of Muted w/LH bass drum hits and with Finale using C4, I lose the use of C6 and C7 and have to use ";+/-"; to get the muted sound I am looking for.  Which is ok, but time consuming.

thanks again,
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I just tried changing the setting and indeed it does not work.�� I am guessing its my keyboard rather than finale, unless there is something else I can try.�� I am using a run of the mill Casio keyboard till I can afford an Oxygen 8.�� If thats the case with finale using C4 (Pitch 60), will I find the same problem say using another type of keyboard.�� I am not so familiar using MIDI keyboards for inputting, so sorry if these questions seem a bit elementary.�� The reason being is I was writing a lot of Muted w/LH bass drum hits and with Finale using C4, I lose the use of C6 and C7 and have to use ";+/-"; to get the muted sound I am looking for.�� Which is ok, but time consuming.

thanks again,
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Keep in mind that this will not ";do"; anything.  When you change this, it changes the C-name for what you have listed in the Percussion Map Selection.  This will not transpose anything or let you access a different octave when hitting the same note on your keyboard.  Basically:

1.  C4 = Midi Pitch 60
2.  Change the setting and now C3 = 60

Or maybe a better way to put it is:  Midi Pitch 60 = C4 and you are now just calling it C3
[quote author=Coach link=topic=2323.msg12300#msg12300 date=1204152748]

Keep in mind that this will not ";do"; anything.  When you change this, it changes the C-name for what you have listed in the Percussion Map Selection.  This will not transpose anything or let you access a different octave when hitting the same note on your keyboard.  Basically:

1.  C4 = Midi Pitch 60
2.  Change the setting and now C3 = 60

Or maybe a better way to put it is:  Midi Pitch 60 = C4 and you are now just calling it C3
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I getcha Coach.  Is there a way to change MIDI pitch, or will that involve changing the whole Percussion Mapping to fit my keyboard.
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