Timpani Hard LITE "l.v." command is being applied to wrong note

I'm using the Timpani Hard LITE instrument and my ";let vibrate"; text is not being interpreted properly during playback. See the attached image for a snippet of the score; Timpani is the 2nd line down.

What happens when I try to play this is that the D-natural and F rolls never stop sounding - they ring until the playback line hits the end of the last measure of the score. If I remove the ";l.v."; text, the rolls terminate as notated and everything else plays back fine as well. I'm not sure if there is any difference in the playback of the sfz Cs with and without the ";l.v."; text in place.

Am I doing something wrong here?
Ah, that's a much less intrusive way of handling this problem, plus you can copy a piece of ";l.v"; text that has had its ";play on pass"; check boxes unchecked, and paste it around your score so that you don't have to uncheck the boxes each time.
Good point, Bryan. I've revised my above post to include this information as well.
Also, Joe, you wouldn't need to remove them from the Dictionary, but merely uncheck the Play On Pass box for that staff text.
Thanks for sharing this tip, Joe. When the sustain pedal controller (CC64) inadvertently gets activated, it can be really frustrating, so this is a good reminder.
Just thought I'd dig up an old thread to add some helpful information. I wrote some sustained suspended cymbal rolls with mute release, but the rolls weren't releasing. This was due to some ";l.v."; text prior to the initiation of the sustained roll. It was important that I retain this text due to quick changes in choke / sustain cymbal technique in the part. Also, I did not want to remove the ";l.v."; entries from the playback dictionary since this might affect other things.

So, having learned about controller changes from other VDL experiences, I simply entered the text ";~CC64,1"; prior to the start of the sustained roll, and now it releases properly.
The L.V. marking (or ";lv"; without periods) is affecting playback due to these entries in the Sibelius Playback Dictionary. The quick fix would be to select any such ";L.V."; markings, then deselect the ";play on pass"; checkbox in the Playback Properties window. Another way would be to delete these two dictionary entries from the playback dictionary, but that will affect times you may actually want that playback functionality to work as designed.

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One thing I might suggest so that you actually hear notes ringing is to write them at more of a full value (rather than using l.v. marks). This will prolong the note before the ";note off"; message is sent, thus giving you a more lifelike playback. If you're dead set on using a quarter note (for example), you can enter a Sibelius pedal marking (create>line) which will sustain the note for as long as you stretch the pedal marking horizonatlly to the right. Once you have it sounding the way you like it, simply select the pedal marking and hide it so it doesn't print. It's a little clunky, but does afford you the control you may be looking for. Personally, I've grown more into the habit of writing longer note lengths, negating the need for as many ";l.v."; type markings, plus quickly communicating to the performer what your intent was.

Hope this helps.
I didn't know that; thanks.

Ultimately, though, there is still a problem with the ";l.v."; text - it is being applied to other notes in the part, and causing the rolls to continue forever. This is incorrect behavior.
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Strangely enough, ";[reset] "; technique text has no effect; the roll continues even with this text attached to a rest prior to the roll, or to the beginning of the roll itself.

#2 works, of course, but then the note doesn't play back properly (it really doesn't matter much in this case, especially with everything else playing in the score, but still...).

#3 makes the part look right without causing any playback artifacts, but again this doesn't affect the playback in the desired manner either.
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Removing the l.v. does not effect the playback of the sample.  If there is no marking to alter the end of the note then the note will last the full length that was recorded.
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Strangely enough, ";[reset] "; technique text has no effect; the roll continues even with this text attached to a rest prior to the roll, or to the beginning of the roll itself.

#2 works, of course, but then the note doesn't play back properly (it really doesn't matter much in this case, especially with everything else playing in the score, but still...).

#3 makes the part look right without causing any playback artifacts, but again this doesn't affect the playback in the desired manner either.
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Joe,

Send me your file and I will take a look at it.�� gcobas(at)sibelius.com
Strangely enough, ";[reset] "; technique text has no effect; the roll continues even with this text attached to a rest prior to the roll, or to the beginning of the roll itself.

#2 works, of course, but then the note doesn't play back properly (it really doesn't matter much in this case, especially with everything else playing in the score, but still...).

#3 makes the part look right without causing any playback artifacts, but again this doesn't affect the playback in the desired manner either.
Hi Joe,

A few things you can try:

1) Enter this text prior to the rolls:
[b]~[reset][/b]

That should (in theory) reset any dictionary commands that occurred due to the ";l.v.";

2) Remove any ";l.v."; entries from the dictionary.

3) Use a symbol (small frowny) instead of l.v. text to indicate the let ring indications.

Hope this helps!
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