Hello everyone,

I don't know what i'm missing here, but I seem to have made some sort of knot on my mac with Sib 6 / VDL 2.5 / my own brain.

I'm getting a chainsaw snare buzz roll playback sound instead of the glorious buzz rolls that are supposed to be playing back but only within a certain file on my system.  If I open the template and write a buzz roll on a new file, it works fine, but in this one score, I'm getting the chainsaw sound and can't seem to get rid of it!  I even tried selecting all, copy / paste into the template file, but the sound still persists.  I'm lost and could use some help!

Thanks,
Chris

Was this file written in a different version of Sibelius or exported over from Finale?

Are you sure you're using the right notehead for the buzz roll?

Have you tried unchecking the Play Tremolo box in the properties window?

Try those and see if any of that helps.  If you're willing, you can PM me the file and I'll look at it for you also.

The file was created on a different machine running Sib 6 with VDL.

I have tried unchecking the play tremolo button, but then it just plays a single snare stroke.

I am using the Z marking over a whole note - yes?

Unfortunately I don't feel comfortable sharing the notation on other machines, but I do appreciate your help.  Please let me know if you have any other ideas - I'm dying here!  Refreshing the page every 30 minutes or so to see if I get any response.  :)

Thanks again,
Chris

Are you using the correct notehead?

Great...  maybe that's what's happening?

I thought the note head would be a standard snare drum stroke (0) or (31) along with the articulation symbol (Z) above the note?

Use 20 or 34. 

Thanks for your help, Bill, but still no luck..

20 gives me a gock / ping sound

34 gives me silence / no playback.

I tried both, with and without Tremolo selected..

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... but only within a certain file on my system.  If I open the template and write a buzz roll on a new file, it works fine, but in this one score, I'm getting the chainsaw sound and can't seem to get rid of it!
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This seems to be file specific, as you point out. Since the file was created on another computer, we don't know exactly what has happened to the file before you got it.

My guess is that the instrument(s) you are having trouble with has had the mapping part of its definition corrupted. Reading up on [url=https://www.tapspace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3714.0]this thread[/url] may get you going in the right direction. If not, let us know.

Wait, just occurred to me.  The file was created on another machine running Sibelius 6.  Was it built on the 6.0a template or the 6.0 template?  It could be that you're loading the wrong soundset.

Also, if you're using the 6.0a template, use notehead 0 or 33 with slashes instead of the Z marking.

[quote author=Bill link=topic=3951.msg20805#msg20805 date=1298871721]
Wait, just occurred to me.  The file was created on another machine running Sibelius 6.  Was it built on the 6.0a template or the 6.0 template?  It could be that you're loading the wrong soundset.
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Ah, that could be it also!

How do I know which soundset is being used?  The file came off of another system from a co worker.  I'm not sure which template they used.  Is there a way for me to force the material into the 6.0a template with the correct soundset? 

How do I troubleshoot all of this and figure out what exactly I am using?

My mind spins for some reason with this stuff - I feel like there are overlapping terms and connections between VDL / Kontakt / Sibelius which make things very difficult to stabilize for best functioning results..?  Is it just me? 

I have Sib 6 (latest version), VDL 2.5.1 with the 2.5.2 sound update, and Kontakt Player 2.

If you go into the file and go to Create > Instruments (or press I), you should see a VDL group in the top left box that should have a number like 6.0 or 6.0a. That will let you know which sound set you should be using in your playback configuration.

Unreal!!

It IS set to VDL 6.0 and not 6.0a..

Thanks!  Now how can I shift it to 6.0a so that I can get the playback working correctly?

-Chris

So...

I think I partially knew the answer to my own question...?

I went to House Style - Import / VDL 2.5 which brought up the 6.0a instruments.  Then I added new 6.0a instruments into the score next to the original parts.  I then copied the material from the old staff to the new one, then deleted the old staves.  Unfortunately, the rolls are still not playing correctly?  I tried both noteheads 20 and 34 on double slash trem markings, still getting the chainsaw sound.  Then I tried nodehead 0 and 33 with the double slash, same thing.  Still confused - sorry guys!! 

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It IS set to VDL 6.0 and not 6.0a..

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Chris

Probably the best thing to do is have the person who sent you their 6.0 template file send you their 6.0 sound set and then use that in your playback configuration when working in that file (you can create another configuration just for that if you want). The only drawback to that will be if you want to use the 2.5.2 library items that are not included in the 6.0 template, as they won't be available in that template file.

My experience with exporting / importing House Styles has led me to want to avoid that scenario whenever possible (without having FULL control over all files involved). And since you don't know what has happened to the 6.0 file before you got it, you may be asking for more problems than it's worth.

Anyway, if you can get the 6.0 sound set from him, that will be the best way to go.

Late
Hugh