Articulations

[u][b]Two questions for you goodlooking and smart people:[/b][/u]

1.
Should articulations be associated with the specific samples/noteheads?
Is the reverse true if that's not the case? (Are the samples associated with the articulations?)
[i]For example, If I associate an accent with a notehead, will it modify the sample?[/i]

I am in the process of learning the program, so at this point I am trying to speed up my workflow.
(Which right now is still at a snails pace)

2.
I am having a tough time with rolls:
I am notating them correctly, but I'm afraid I am only getting a ";Middle School on Mylar"; sound for the roll. I have taken to doing the subdivisions of the rolls with diddles (one slash) notated on the individual stems.

I'm sure I'm doing something wrong....
Thanks in advance.
Thanks for the replies folks. Didn't have a chance to work the fixes in last night.
Will follow up with the gratitude from my success when I do.
[quote author=Darwonka link=topic=4046.msg21265#msg21265 date=1308253956]
1.
Should articulations be associated with the specific samples/noteheads?
Is the reverse true if that's not the case? (Are the samples associated with the articulations?)
[i]For example, If I associate an accent with a notehead, will it modify the sample?[/i]
[/quote]

Mostly no. In VDL Template 6.0b there are just a few sounds that are dependent on articulations for proper playback.

No. The samples are ";just there";. It takes a sequencer of some kind to trigger the sounds. And most sequencers out there don't involve notation of any kind.

Sort of. Like Jim said, adding an accent in Sibelius will result in a velocity change. I think accents modify the original velocity of the note by 120%. A marcato modifies it by 130%. (Or something like that.) Sibelius just sends the net result velocity to the playback device, in this case Kontakt Player 2, and it is played back at the correct volume level.

For more on this, review the [b]Unpitched Instruments[/b] section of the Readme - this starts on page 15. Also reread the [b]Inputting Notes[/b] section - starts on page 19. Otherwise, you'll probably want to keep the VDL_Diagrams_6.0b pdf file handy so you can reference the Mapping Diagrams whenever you need to.

[quote author=Jim Casella link=topic=4046.msg21268#msg21268 date=1308256350]
... Mecchanico is probably the safest bet.
[/quote]

If you're using the Template, it should already be set to Meccanico.

[quote author=Darwonka link=topic=4046.msg21269#msg21269 date=1308257989]
To get a bit more granular regarding the articulation question:
If I'm inputting the correct sound using the control keyboard, should the articulation attach to the stem/notehead automatically.
For example, if I play a ";shot"; sound on the keyboard, should the ";marcato"; articulation appear over the stem/notehead automatically?
[/quote]

Sibelius is not currently designed to function that way. The shot sounds do not require any articulations to get the correct playback. However, you can place one on them if you like - either during input, or after (like Jim said).


If you're still having issues with diddle playback, Jim's suggestions about latency and sound card settings should be the fix there.

[quote author=Darwonka link=topic=4046.msg21265#msg21265 date=1308253956]
I am in the process of learning the program, so at this point I am trying to speed up my workflow.
(Which right now is still at a snails pace)
[/quote]

Sounds like you're getting along pretty good so far. Just keep learning and you'll be up to speed with the rest of us before you know it.
Ah, I see what you mean. That's a great question, but no...the articulations will not automatically appear from punching in a specific MIDI pitch. That would be nice, but it's not typically how the notation program would function.

You can, however, select the articulations/note rhythm value BEFORE punching in the MIDI note, which would then result in the note being entered with all its various ornamentations. You can choose to do it this way, or add the articulations (staccato, accents, marcato, diddle slashes, etc) after the fact.
The rolls are kooky on the snare and tenor voices. I will attack the settings after work and rehearsal....Thanks!

To get a bit more granular regarding the articulation question:
If I'm inputting the correct sound using the control keyboard, should the articulation attach to the stem/notehead automatically.
For example, if I play a ";shot"; sound on the keyboard, should the ";marcato"; articulation appear over the stem/notehead automatically?

Are you using a VDL Template for Sibelius? If so, have you explored the ReadMe that comes with the template? This will give you a lot of information on how the noteheads entered (and in some cases, articulations) will affect the playback on specific VDL instruments.

With which VDL Instruments are you having problems with rolls? (Snareline Manual, AutoRL, etc). Can you describe what's happening in specific detail? You might want to check to make sure the ";Performance"; setting in Sibelius (in the Play menu) isn't set too high on ";Espressivo";. Mecchanico is probably the safest bet.

You might also want to check the latency settings between Sibelius and your soundcard. In Sibelius 6, you can adjust your latency settings in the Audio Engine Options (accessible via the Playback Devices window). For more information on this, here are a few helpful articles from the Tapspace FAQ:

https://www.tapspace.com/support/faq/index.php?action=artikel&cat=4&id=11&artlang=en

https://www.tapspace.com/support/faq/index.php?action=artikel&cat=4&id=33&artlang=en

https://www.tapspace.com/support/faq/index.php?action=artikel&cat=4&id=34&artlang=en
And I just did the ";facepalm"; for asking and not giving...again.

Sibelius 6.something

Windows Vista
(With a mouse and monitor)

VDL 2.5 (all updated and working)

Oxygen 8
The answer to question 1 may depend on what notation program you're using. In either the case of Finale or Sibelius, adding an accent will result in a note played back with increased velocity.

In regard to playback, noteheads may respond differently depending on which notation program you're using.


On question 2, this may depend on what notation program you're using, and which VDL instrument you're playing back (Snareline Manual, AutoRL, etc).

If you can provide some specific details as to what you're doing, it may be easier to offer some suggestions.
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