instrument changes


Its been a while since I've had an issue.  Most everything is working out just fine, however I've been trying to figure out why I can make instrument changes on some staffs and not others.  Here is the issue:

I have a percussion score of 18 staves.  Each staff dedicated to a different mallet or percussion instrument.  I decided to add some hand claps that are provided with VDL.  My Chime staff and my one vibe staff makes the instrument change just fine.  However, I want to add claps to the electric guitar and bass guitar part, which for some reason will not make the instrument change.  I follow all the steps that i know, and i place the program cursor that tells sibelius to make the change, however it does not turn red like it is suppose to.  I have 4 instances of kontakt available and I do believe there is space on each instance of kontakt to add the extra claps.   

I hope that makes sense and if any one can help me out, I would greatly appreciate it. 


Just to double check, have you opened up each KP instance to verify that they're not all full?
Thanks for replying.  I have opened up each KP instance to verify.  One is used completely, the others still have plenty of space.

Send me the file and I'll take a look. (I sent you a PM.)
I know that sometimes in Sibelius when you want to add an instrument change (represented by the little vertical rectangle and whatever text comes along with that instrument), you have to physically drag the box back a ways before the intended instrument change will register. Once you've verified that the change is taking place correctly, you can then re-drag the instrument change box to the right, pretty much right up until it is just before the first note on the new instrument.

See if moving that box to the left first, and then back again, makes a difference.
Hi Murray,

I have tried what you suggested first because i know that can happen as well, but thanks for the advice!

Ah. Well if that didn't do it, then I will sit back and let Hugh handle this one. He's the master!
Thanks anyway, Hugh is taking a look at what might be going on.  However, I was wondering If I could contact you about a different question (through PM) I have about publishing?

Sure. If it's about submitting for publishing consideration, please read the info here:

Otherwise, sure, send me a PM!
Hi Keith

Got the file and should get to it tomorrow.

Hey Hugh,

Thats great!  Thanks a lot!

I was able to put an instrument change in each of the Electric and Bass Guitar staves without problems. Upon looking in the Kontakt Player instances I also saw the 4 corresponding patch loads/slot assignments for the Hand Claps.

If you haven't seen it yet, I sent you my edited version of the .sib file to look at. (I did this on my Windows 7 machine in Sibelius 7.1.3.)

Let me know what you figure out from my file and we'll go from there.
Hi Hugh,

first, thanks for taking a look at it for me.  Secondly, i looked at what you did and compared it to my original score, honestly...I can;t see what you did differently.  Can you please enlighten me.  I'm sure its staring me in the face and I just don't see it.  hahaha!


Hmm, if there was something different, I don't know what it was.

In your original file (or a copy of it), were you able to get it to work?

I was able to get it to work in my original copy, perhaps all it took was sending it to you.  haha, who knows.  However, thank you anyway for taking a look at it.  I appreciate the time and the effort to help me out.  If I have any further questions or problems, I'll let you know. 


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